Recording the podcasts that covered Parts 3, 4 and 5 of Twin Peaks, The Return.
The podcasts this week think a groundbreaking ceremony is the most popular reason for Jacoby’s shovels. Jade got noticed a LOT as a name from Invitation to Love. DoppelCooper’s associates continue to remind people of above the convenience store. Half the podcasts specifically considered the purple room scene akin to stop motion. Most people think the cigarette lighter in DoppelCoop’s car is where the Good Dale would’ve come out to switch places with him, and there’s a ton of speculating as to if/why the ladies in the purple room led Dale astray. Most podcasts are guessing Audrey & Diane for the “she” Albert mentions. Over half the podcasts think Wally Brando’s father is Dick Tremayne (so do I).
This week, I’m keeping this top part short because I’ve had two weeks in a row working on 50+ podcasts, so let’s get right to it:
The Red Room Podcast came out last week during the Greater Twin Peaks Podcast Deluge of May 2017, so I’m finally covering it now, sorry about that. Scott went to the premiere party but couldn’t get into the screening, but that didn’t stop him from sharing a fun a line with Kyle MacLachlan or getting the whole lobby to break into applause for Mark Frost. Scott’s favorite moment so far is Laura whispering a new secret into Cooper’s ear. As Cooper becomes closer to himself, he and Josh suspect the Badalamenti score will become more prevalent and recognizable until he and his theme come back strong as ever. The hosts discussed how the first credits scene proved once and for all Laura is dead in this new story, rather than the popular theories that she might be alive. And they closed out the episode with a nice segment on Catherine Coulson and the Log lady that was a perfect take on what she means to Twin Peaks.
Logs, Coffee & Bob, did a quick episode each for Parts Three and Four, and I loved it as much as last week. The host is fantastic; he covers all the scenes with proper storytelling context, and even works in his personal preferences (He WANTS Audrey and her theme song NOW). And he does it in 15 minutes per episode. SO good, so worth it.
Sparkwood & 21 made a podcast each for Parts Three and Four, and they were high quality as always. As with last week, they left their legendary best feedback section in the universe for the end of part Four. The hosts start by mentioning a pinkish fluid flowing into the purple when Cooper falls onto that balcony by the sea, which they settled on meaning he was breaking through dimensional walls. They also noted that if American Girl really is Ronnette, that takes away the happy ending from Fire Walk With Me. They guess that Tamera Preston is portrayed the way she is to poke fun at the overly sexy FBI woman trope that seems all the rage. I buy this a lot. A regular thought throughout is that Dougie Jones’ reality may be a dream or some form of unreality. This even comes up in the feedback section. You heard it here first, and I think they’re onto something big with this theory. Well worth multiple listens as always, this one.
I’m Worried About Coop covered Parts Three and Four in their episode. I like that the hosts are always bringing up the podcasting community at large, and they come up with great observations. In the macro, they don’t think in the end that all the pieces will make total sense with each other, and we won’t get all the answers we wanted. And in the micro, they saw an Eye on the sea’s horizon near the purple building. They wonder how many times “Cooper will finally become himself” will be dangled in front of us before it happens. And the controlled DoppelCoop speech might not be that he’s Bob like I think, it could be that he’s speaking in code only Gordon knows (making Albert worthy of suspicion). This is quite the angle, and fresh. I’d listen to these two even if I wasn’t doing my column.
Who Killed Laura Podcast put out a podcast each for Parts Three and Four. They assume Dougie is a creation of Mr. C, mention the RR-To-Go boxes, and wonder if the lodge symbols above the slot machines are assistance from the lodge denizens or if it’s just something Coop happens to see. The hosts wonder where the new songs are, call out Cooper’s condition as Monkey-See-Monkey-Do Mode, mention the theme delivered by Lucy (what’s happening when we’re not here?), prefer the curmudgeonly Albert, and liked Michael Cera’s taking of the not-that-hip biker mantle.
Twin Peaks Revival did a reaction cast each for Parts Three & Four and did a full recap episode for Parts One and Two. The host & guest Da Professa think Frost & Lynch went in a different story direction than standard possession after Frank Silva died. They also noticed Parts Three and Four felt Frosty, more comedic. They felt the Hawk/Andy/Lucy scene needed Truman (though I suspect that was the point). They also thought Part Four was a waste of everyone’s time, and they were either angry with it or bored by the non-engagement with viewers. Their three-hour-long Parts One and Two recap episode starts with an odd 30-minute comedy segment with listener “feedback” then 30 minutes of defending their negativity/middle ground POV. I personally don’t mind their “negativity” because they do it in such a way that they’re never cutting other people down for liking what they don’t. 56 minutes in is when the Twin Peaks commentary begins. They did a pros and cons conversation about the new opening and found it hard to watch the sheriff’s department scenes without Truman.
Lodgers put out an episode covering their reactions for all four available Parts. They loved the overabundance of Coopers (“We’re all expecting two Coopers, how about three?”), though Cooper at home with Dougie’s family was French Farcical, were effected by James’ smiles, and mentioned the sooty jail cell spook faded away like Victorian spirit photography. They also note how the comedy and the dark are present as before, but aside from the Bobby scene, the love effect isn’t in Twin peaks yet. The show’s moral rudder of Cooper is gone, and it just may be a commentary on current TV without the love for current TV that Twin Peaks had the first time around.
Deer Meadow Radio always has a fun sound design with their intros, and this was no exception. The host Mark gave updates where he’s being published (Blue Rose Magazine for one) and how his work on the Hazel Drew case is proceeding, and then he went into the main feature, which was how the third season was going to go back in ‘91. Mark pays extra attention to any Robert Engels interviews because he’s the crux, working closely with the stories in the series AND Fire Walk With Me. Windom Earle was supposed to come back and take over the town, and there was going to be a battle between lodge denizens. Mark said there were technical difficulties making this episode, but you wouldn’t know it. Another good addition to this always-stellar podcast with a topic that’s fascinated me for decades. Mark’s Podcast is one of my favorites for great reason.
Fish In The Percolator made two episodes this week for Parts One through Three. The hosts expect this show to make sense later but right now not so much. They felt the new Twin Peaks is a culmination of David Lynch’s work and understand that Catherine Coulson is a CHAMPION. And Lucy and Andy are dumber than they’ve ever been. These are quick half-hour episodes, and the hosts may sound rough around the edges, but Matt always comes up with great theories like this one: after the fire in Twin Peaks where Major Briggs died, who’s to say Briggs’ doppelganger wasn’t working for Bob from that point till South Dakota? This sounds incredibly dark and highly plausible now that it’s brought up.
Twin Peaks Rewatch put out a podcast each for Parts Three and Four. Part Three felt to the hosts like the first Part pushing beyond Twin Peaks and Lynch’s previous output. Cooper leaving his shoes felt like a sight gag. They noted how the lore is being presented straightforwardly. As Cooper makes his way through the Casino, the hosts compare Cooper with Laura in Fire Walk With Me because Coop is cut off from all support structures. They noticed how as Cooper comes back to Earth, the plot threads and progressions condense and does the same. As out there as the concepts of the lodges etc. are, the plot is knowable, comprehensible and straightforward. The hosts also note that Cooper entered the lodge in Arthurian territory and exited in the same. They skipped reader mail after Part Three again but finally included it in Part Four’s episode. Consistency goes a long way, gentlemen. Just saying.
Fire Cast With Us covered Parts Three and Four in this week’s episode. They have two episodes previous to this, and you can sum them up by saying the hosts let their enthusiasm carry the show. Their research is not too deep (or somehow off-balance), and they don’t have their names down from classic Peaks, but they’re well-meaning. They enjoy what they’re watching, and they’re here for the ride. They cover the basic recap points and think Audrey is the billionaire.
Wrapped In Podcast is made by two superfans and their guest Ken Walczak, and their intro episode is comprehensive as all get-out (one of the best meet-the-hosts podcasts you’ll hear). They covered Parts One and Two in two separate podcasts this week. They find a way to compare Secret History of Twin Peaks to the Access Guide, which will endear you to me faster than almost anything, and they note how audiences are conditioned to see Prestige TV a certain way new Twin Peaks is STILL weirder than that. They bring up numbers, Masonic lodges, think it leans a little too Women In Refrigerators, and don’t see much of Frost in the new show (which surprises me). They wonder if the new lodge rules are walking back the nuance between the Leland/Bob culpability issue (which I coincidentally explore here). They say the Evolution of the Arm is the Lynchiest Lynch that ever was. And they pose if the glass box demon is evil Laura Palmer, wreaking havoc avenging angel style. Good stuff, well worth a listen.
Mr. Podcast put out two Really Long episodes each for Parts Three and Four. They regularly double back on things they’ve discussed before, which is interesting, but their Part Three episode went over FOUR hours and essentially was a discussion on Fire Walk With Me and the first four Parts all over again. These guys would do well to buy a microphone and come up with a show plan before discussing things, but their conversations are solid, and their observations are always organic and smart. And you can tell they’re young because they had no idea what the Brando impression thing was. They discuss the Magical Black Character concept and if it applies to Lynch or not. Mention how sentences are spoken in sixes. They think the lodge denizens do not exist to help Cooper, but he’s in the middle of something they’re working through so they do help him. The hosts’ Part Four coverage sticks more to just Part Four, but it still clocks in over two hours. There’s a fascinating theory about how Jeffries is the Monkey in the Convenience Store scenes of Fire Walk With Me, which I could see being a nice work-around for using the character in the new series. The hosts also ask a really sad question about if Sonny Jim knows his dad’s not his dad anymore. If you have the time, it’s an entertaining and thoughtful podcast.
The Investigating Twin Peaks guys tried to kill me this week by releasing TEN video podcasts for Season Two’s first NINE episodes on Friday afternoon. I listened to the first two which had on a guest who worked on the crew as a stand-in for the original Twin Peaks as well as for the Return as well. The stories were fascinating, and the show’s coverage is the perfect one for beginners that are coming late to the party. This is the perfect starter podcast.
Dark Mood Woods put out one podcast for Parts Three and Four. They noted how the Lodge lore was mined for comedy for the first time. Lynch is fine with subverting tone. They go through Michael Cera’s Brando impression and wonder if the Twin Peaks scenes are the last gasp of the ’50s-’90s aesthetic or an elaborate joke. They discussed how successful (or not) the placeholder/credits music is while pointing out a few musicians still on the list waiting to surface.
Bickering Peaks put out an episode covering Parts Three and Four. The hosts discussed the forward momentum missed in previous episodes and the dreamier tone and how music seems to be exclusively diegetic. They wonder if the black lodge symbols marking the casino jackpots were a sign of Cooper being a magician or if the lodge denizens are assisting him and notice that Denise (in describing beautiful early 30’s) was also describing Cooper back in the day. They touch on alternate timelines, how the male body in the Ruth Davenport murders could be Major Briggs, and worry about rambling (which they shouldn’t at all…these Eagle Scouts are easy to listen to and I dig every episode).
Ghostwood covered Parts One and Two in one podcast. The hosts say the New York scene exemplifies how sex turns into violence with Lynch materials. They also revel in how Lynch decided, instead of phoning it in, to go full-on Eraserhead. And they enjoyed the Hawk & Log Lady friendship. The hosts would rather reminisce than analyze too deeply, but they have a good dynamic with each other.
Peaks TV covered Parts Three and Four in one podcast. The hosts wonder if the three Coopers will come together and form the whole Cooper. They also wonder if the golden ball that was Dougie is actually Cooper’s brain. They really want Janie-E to recognize that Dougie isn’t Dougie anymore, but she just doesn’t do it. They come up with interesting ideas but often stick to a fairly plain recapping style.
We’re Not Going To Talk About Judy (a subheading of the Another Kind of Distance podcast) covered Parts Three and Four with one podcast. One host believes the denizens of the purple place are benevolent until he sees otherwise. And in the interview scene, he thinks DoppelCoop just needs his garmonbozia (rather than being Bob). The hosts’ imaginations continue to be minimal, and I really think they’re my doppelgängers (they REALLY don’t like using metaphors at ALL).
The Gifted & The Damned put out a podcast covering Parts Three and Four and a podcast covering their listener feedback. The hosts think the eyeless woman in the purple place pulled the lever like Coop would pull the lever on slots later. They compare DoppelCooper to Leland and explain why Cooper couldn’t blend in and stay a pillar of society like Leland did while Bob was involved. Their listener feedback show brought to light that Bill Hastings’ house had a picture of Kafka just like Gordon Cole’s office, and the cashier at the casino is apparently wearing an Owl Ring.
Damn Fine Podcast covered Parts Three and Four in one episode, and the first thing they do is trumpet Frost’s noticed presence, which you know I will always appreciate. The hosts figure Andy and Lucy should be smarter by now and were initially rebuffed by Bobby as law enforcement but remember this kind of thing happens in small towns and think Bobby as a cop works. This marks the period where the hosts make it through their expectations to their moment of the click.
Afterbuzz’s Twin Peaks After Show covered Parts 3 and Four in one episode. The hosts mention Laura’s words from Fire Walk With Me about falling, and they figure out their job as hosts of this show is interpreting Lynch’s dreams. They make the Gerard-as-shoe-salesman connection that I think will be how Coop gets his shoes back, wonder if Maddie was a doppelgänger, and basically beg for an exploration of Major Briggs’ role in the mythology. They sound all hype machine, but their insights are surprisingly insightful.
EW’s A Twin Peaks Podcast put out an episode covering Parts Three and Four, as well as an interview with Damon Lindeloff. The hosts think Part Three is Lynch’s personal nostalgia being explored through the purple space, they notice the yellow and gold popping up but don’t explore it, and they love (and want to see more of) Robert Forester. They wonder if we’re ever going to get the Cooper we remember or will it be a fully-integrated Cooper by the end of this series? In the Lindeloff interview, they discuss his time at the premier event. He and John Thorne had some word, but the paraphrased words of David Nevins were the highlight: you have to watch the first four hours to understand how to watch it. The hosts unpacked and dissected their expectations, and the show re-taught them what Twin Peaks wants us to know what it is now. (They also throw out a guess that John Justice Wheeler is the billionaire, which should thrill the Woolhouse Boys.) The last half of the interview covered the Leftovers, a show I am definitely intrigued by.
Fire Talk With Me covered Parts Three and Four with an episode each. The hosts made notes before their shows this week rather than their traditional off-the-cuff reactions. They consider what the eyeless woman did a sacrifice for Coop, and they note the Ronnie Rocket line and put it in some context. They’re all in that Cooper’s quest so far is a rebirth metaphor, and that Coop’s a child right now. And if you’re a child, you’re not ready for coffee.
Bookhouse Podcast covered Parts Three and Four with their episode and did not have their details straight per usual (when referring to Tamara Preston she’s “the one who pretty much authored the book”, meaning Secret History, which she didn’t). Despite those shortcomings, they did pretty well talking through the pros and cons of Bobby as a police officer, the state of objectification in Twin Peaks, and one of the few podcasts who worry about Albert’s role in things his good guy alignment.
Twin Peaks Log put out an episode each for Parts Three and Four. They noticed the muted color palette that’s slightly off-putting and the fact that Rancho Rosa means pink house. They go a bit into Cole’s issues with objectification but think Cole’s great overall. And they’ve got a hell of an angle for an alternate choice to the male body in the Ruth Davenport murder: Dougie Milford. It’s a bit wacky, but I have an idea of how it could be totally plausible.
How’s Annie Podcast put out two podcasts earlier that covered their experience with the original series (including the Audrey relationship issues), Fire Walk With Me, and Secret History of Twin Peaks. In this week’s episode, they covered Parts One and Two. They read a passage from Secret History to connect explicitly to the glass box (a nice touch), explored Mathew Lillard as a surprise (and dealing with the much-younger-him Scream flashbacks that were unsettling in a timely way), and gave tribute to the Log Lady. The hosts also discussed Albert’s roll in things, the lodges, Fire Walk With Me, and even brought in Leland’s and Bob’s culpability, all the chestnuts. And they kept it under an hour and a half—this one is off to a good start.
The Eagle Scouts over at Diane Podcast started right out the gate of their episode covering Parts Three and Four by connecting it to Eurydice and Orpheus, then bring in science fiction sources The Prisoner, Sapphire & Steel and even some Dr Who. Rosie noticed that the stuttering movement of the people in the purple room was not unlike the flickering of candle flames, and later on (when talking about Tamara Preston) she gave me the quote of the week: “strutting around like a sexy velociraptor is quite fun.” The hosts also compliment Frost’s ear for how different varieties of people talk, and they joyfully discuss Wally Brando, connecting him to history and Tremayne. The tonal shifts are exciting in Twin Peaks and also here in one of my favorite shows.
Twin Peaks The Return put out an episode each for Parts Two and Three so far, both with sound design aficionado Eloise Ross as their guest. They describe DoppelCooper as being rampant want, the exact opposite of our Cooper. They noted the diversity issues with the eyeless Asian woman in Part Three, and note that Joan Chen (in her in-character letter to Lynch requesting inclusion in the Return) understands Twin Peaks better than any of us. They point out how MacLachlan is doing amazing unheard-of work on this show, and heavily suspect Coop will never get back to his old self.
Counter Esperanto put out a podcast this week titled the 10th Secret, which covers the Return’s first four Parts. They went in with no expectations and are the better for it. They think Tracy is not a spy at all; rather she’s bait. With Jacoby’s five gold shovels, they connect to the five of spades otherwise known as the Five of Swords in tarot. They think DoppelCooper is a reflection of the popular anti-hero, discuss the lack of Badalamenti music, and connect Coop’s coffee with Popeye’s spinach. They wrap up with a discussion of how four parts in, old fans are still excited, and that overall our expectations have not made us underwhelmed.
The Twin Peaks Podcast covered Parts Three and Four in this week’s episode and Matt feels so alone that he’s not really loving the Twin Peaks stuff. The Eraserhead time at the front of Part Three almost made him tap out. They find it incredulous that no one cares that Dougie changed into the Good Dale. The hosts worry about the slowness making Andy, Lucy and Hawk look like bad actors and things like the who can hold their puke the longest contest. They find Evil Coop vs Coop narratively exciting but have a lot of trepidation of its execution. They did like how DoppelCoop seemed completely unaware of how crazy his excuses sounded to the agents, and one of their feedbackers dropped in this interesting detail. When Sam talked to Tracy about the anonymous billionaire, a music cue of Audrey’s was nestled into the soundtrack. If this is the case, that’s QUITE the interesting tale. Hopefully, this crew gets past their expectations to acceptance because otherwise, the next few months will be a long time for the granddaddy of Twin Peaks podcasts.
There Will Be Drinking Recaps Twin Peaks made two episodes this week each covering Parts Three and Four. They wonder if all the Coops share the same soul, do a bit deciding on the roadhouse clientele and the bands that are dead inside enough to play there and love Jade the most.
Formica Table made one episode covering Parts Three and Four. One of the hosts felt like it was referencing Lynch’s previous work rather than new work, and they loved both Bobby’s introduction and career path. They also feel like the Wally Brando scene was (in a runner-up to quote of the week) “a postmodernist dad joke”, as well as brilliant thanks to Robert Forster.
The Brad Dukes Show covered Parts Three and Four in one episode with guest John Thorne. They begin by debating the logic and value of the Dougie/Cooper switcheroo, think Lucy and Andy might be overplayed, and think Bobby’s crying is consistent with his character’s history. Neither of them knew how Hawk was supposed to connect with the lodge story, and they notice both of Laura’s diaries on the evidence table. Neither care for the objectification in Twin Peaks and they wrap up by sharing their warm thoughts on the Twin Peaks fan community.
Twin Peaks Peeks made a CLASSIC intro soundbite before jumping into their episode’s coverage of Parts Three and Four. Dougie raised a ton of questions all by himself, not to mention that he has a real-life beyond his creation. The hosts think the purple room could be the Lodges’ version of the glass box and noticed how Coop spent his entire time in the lodge being led around by beautiful women. And they’re the only podcast this week to ask the question: they wonder (since Lynch is revisiting and wish-fulfilling his previous work) if Audrey will have lived out her original Mulholland Drive Hollywood dreams and we’ll find her in LA. They think the Hawk/Andy/Lucy scene was exhilarating and wonderful and thinks Forster plays a strong, great character. Also, Janey-E mothering Cooper means SOMETHING. A lovely show as always, you should make time for this team.
Boob Tube Buddies put out an episode covering Parts Three and Four, with a listener interview covering the topic of Chaos Magic (that implied Lynch had harnessed the numbers and groupthink to create his view of the universe). Most of the episode commentary covers what others did. Still, they specifically pinpointed Dougie’s wardrobe as 70s era (and that means he and DoppelCoop share two sides of the same wardrobe era).
Laura Palmer Is Dead came back covering Parts One and Two. They noticed early Lucy’s inability to stay with the times, and figure the chemistry of the kids in New York are the experiment. The main host especially has overconfidence with her less-than-solid info that drives me up the wall, but they do have an insight from the point of view of being actors that sometimes raises the material right back up.
Dishin’ The Percolator is going through some shifts as Sean and Jon are taking control of these episodes while our newbie Dallas is hanging on but not by much. Hope he comes around for sure, but the tone is staying light especially considering the episode starts off talking about Paw Patrol and things their kids watch (a podcast I would listen to with no issue and take notes for my toddlers). The show’s biggest change is the two OG hosts talk theory openly, and it’s pretty fun, even as they’re pretty worried about never getting our Cooper back. And Sean also noticed the Bob vibe in DoppelCooper, a fact I have to mention because we were around the same age when we watched, so he probably picked up on it for similar reasons (I got your back, man).
Twin Peaks Unwrapped did an episode breakdown of Parts Three and Four this week before interviewing the major players in the newest Blue Rose Magazine issue. The hosts compared the Ben and Jerry Horne scene with the Denise and Gordon scene, where men still ogle, but it’s getting more respectful than it was. Fix your heart or die stuff. Bryon thinks something’s going to happen to Albert before all is said and done, and made a nice observation that Badalamenti music lives in Twin Peaks, which is why we haven’t heard much of it yet. As far as the Blue Rose Magazine goes, it sounds like a great next issue. I mean, you shake it the right way, and a Pine Weasel falls out, Scott Ryan promised. If you’re on the fence about buying the next issue, listen to this and be persuaded properly.
AND IF YOU ONLY LISTEN TO ONE PODCAST THIS WEEK IT SHOULD BE:
Time For Cherry Pie & Coffee (a subheading of the Time For Cakes and Ale podcast) made podcast clocks in at 2:42:03 this week, but it’s a good one. It covers Parts Three and Four and a half-hour at the end delving into The Secret History of Twin Peaks. They wonder if Phyllis Hastings is a decoy like Dougie Jones because they read an interview with the guy who played the Jumping Man in Fire Walk With Me, whose only directions from Lynch was “you are a talisman brought to life.” They make the Arthurian and Secret History connections I can only dream about doing since I’ve taken on this podcast beat, and they get existential about Lucy’s joke of an issue with the thermostat being an underlying theme of this new Twin Peaks: Does reality exist if no one’s there to observe it. The hosts don’t think the different scenes are happening concurrently on the timeline, Windom Earle might just be the voice DoppelCooper was speaking to in Part Two. Maybe Hank the Maintenance Man has the Secret History dossier in his bag from the Ruth Davenport murder scene. I spoiled some of their show here, but not all of it, and I swear to god these two hosts have some kind of mind-meld going on with me. They think outside the norm, do the work, and explain themselves well. What’s not to like?
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